tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post1497364423681652104..comments2023-10-07T12:15:50.446+01:00Comments on The Centre Left: My Twitter zenith, or A Plague On Both Your HousesRob Marchanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-34636406277789674472014-07-31T20:57:26.326+01:002014-07-31T20:57:26.326+01:00Sorry but though no fan of Salmond, your argument ...Sorry but though no fan of Salmond, your argument is flawed. Checking for weapons at a border post is common practice anywhere. Preventing basic goods, that a population needs for everyday living from entering, is not. That IS indiscriminately targeting civilians, just as the Israeli shells are. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16413658589638730781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-75257123483407513592014-07-11T14:30:38.696+01:002014-07-11T14:30:38.696+01:00I wasn't really trying to make a direct compar...I wasn't really trying to make a direct comparison here but, yes, if you wanted to that would be fairer. If we assume that strike% must be >50% and probably not more than, say, 80%, that leaves us with a range of about 13-22% of electorate. Makes it look worse for unions rather than better.Rob Marchanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-73488488079827671992014-07-10T14:18:11.775+01:002014-07-10T14:18:11.775+01:00I would agree that turn out is critical, but the n...I would agree that turn out is critical, but the numbers you presented were 23% for Cameron (share * turn out) vs 27% (total turn out).<br /><br />27% * strike_percentage would be a fairer comparison? <br /><br />I agree that there is a problem with the unions, I'm just a huge fain of fair stats and comparisons. Born Todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10844896400169041973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-68026854005012675182014-07-10T13:54:36.802+01:002014-07-10T13:54:36.802+01:00I think that's a red herring. The problem in a...I think that's a red herring. The problem in all cases is turnout, but in the case of unions it's beyond doubt that a tiny proportion of members decide everything.Rob Marchanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-173268006556504962014-07-10T13:53:16.946+01:002014-07-10T13:53:16.946+01:00Cheers Ben. No indeed, unions have got a serious p...Cheers Ben. No indeed, unions have got a serious problem. Len McCluskey, for example, was elected on about two-thirds share of a 15% turnout. So around 10% of Unite members.Rob Marchanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-85789936050957653262014-07-10T13:30:11.668+01:002014-07-10T13:30:11.668+01:00But, to be fair, that was 35% of the vote when the...But, to be fair, that was 35% of the vote when there were more then 2 options. While many claim there isn't a difference between Lib/Lab/Con, there was also green, ukip, monster raving loony etc.<br /><br />The strike votes are Yes/No. So the comparison isn't fair...Born Todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10844896400169041973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-37286812872486374662014-07-10T13:25:19.380+01:002014-07-10T13:25:19.380+01:00Good piece Rob. Hypocrisy and crass populism from ...Good piece Rob. Hypocrisy and crass populism from Cameron, but most unions also have little reason to boast and parade their moral superiority.<br /><br />http://afreeleftblog.blogspot.co.uk/Ben Cobleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12663573050880771244noreply@blogger.com