tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post2362898687050722574..comments2023-10-07T12:15:50.446+01:00Comments on The Centre Left: My God, what have I done?Rob Marchanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-53285306559033147392013-08-31T11:37:10.501+01:002013-08-31T11:37:10.501+01:00An interesting point of view, although obviously I...An interesting point of view, although obviously I disagree. I think you are right that Cameron did not handle the situation at all well. But the combination of Cameron's "essay crisis" mentality, as today's excellent Times leader called it, and Miliband's fumbling, caused a result that no-one really wanted.<br /><br />I do not question the honorability of Miliband's intentions. But I do think he has mishandled this terribly.<br /><br />Worst of all, as many people have pointed out today, he has still not indicated where Labour stands on an intervention that will surely go ahead anyway. Will he support it or not? It is somewhat ridiculous that no-one can answer this question.Rob Marchanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11534810369839848312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7741861999194728080.post-92061353076360450772013-08-30T19:39:16.025+01:002013-08-30T19:39:16.025+01:00On interventionism I am broadly with you and with ...On interventionism I am broadly with you and with Nick Cohen.<br /><br />But Miliband acted honourably tabling a motion which would not have precluded military action but delayed it to a point where maximum Parliamentary, public and international support could be generated. <br /><br />Which is precisely what Blair did in 2003 - he did not rush us to war in days but took all the time necessary.<br /><br />The blame here falls entirely on Cameron who barrelled ahead without even securing the support of his own MPs and seemed eager above all to wrongfoot Labour so it could be labelled as 'weak, weak, weak'. <br /><br />The tragedy is that he will probably survive this disaster and may still even win the next election and the only people to pay a price will be the Syrians.Roger McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00741665797773605921noreply@blogger.com